{"id":406,"date":"2005-05-18T12:42:33","date_gmt":"2005-05-18T02:42:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.flamingspork.com\/blog\/?p=406"},"modified":"2010-08-11T07:03:26","modified_gmt":"2010-08-10T21:03:26","slug":"interview-with-sybase-ceo-where-mysql-is-mentioned","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.flamingspork.com\/blog\/2005\/05\/18\/interview-with-sybase-ceo-where-mysql-is-mentioned\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Sybase CEO where MySQL is mentioned"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(insert disclaimer about this being my own ramblings and nothing to do with my employer)<\/p>\n<p>Try and Buy, or Buy and Buy? :: AO<\/p>\n<p>So, the Sybase CEO doesn&#8217;t get it.<\/p>\n<p>The Sybase &#8216;free&#8217; offering is in no way free. It is proprietary software that owns you.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, Stallman was right &#8211; you do not own proprietary software, it owns you.<\/p>\n<p>By giving the user the first hit for &#8216;free&#8217; and placing an arbitrary limit on when they have to start to pay (and <b>only<\/b> pay you, so they have no real freedom of choice) ties the user in chains. It is not &#8216;express&#8217;, it is a demo &#8211; a cinema preview and nothing more.<\/p>\n<p>This is nothing like the free copies of free software. It is merely a proprietary product packaged for a free software platform. Letting people live in a partial freedom. It&#8217;s an improvement, but is a gift to your customers (of partial freedom), not the free software community.<\/p>\n<p>John Chen even says something that is totally misleading.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You download it and develop it and use it&#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>DEVELOP? What the? How can I download anything that lets me develop sybase? hrrmm.. they have the source up there? I don&#8217;t think so. I&#8217;m sure he meant &#8216;develop on top of it&#8217;. In other words, for a database, use it.<\/p>\n<p>The MySQL way of &#8220;you can download it, develop it and use it&#8221; is just that. Download it, the source, actually hack the database, write a new storage engine, change the parser, the optimiser &#8211; hey, even go make it something that isn&#8217;t SQL (for example Fred&#8217;s Query Language or something). Or, if you&#8217;re just going to use it for your web site, just do that. You have the freedom.<\/p>\n<p>MySQL AB (the company) makes money of being the most knowledgeable and well qualified group to provide knowledge, support, training and development of the MySQL database. We don&#8217;t hold our users hostage &#8211; they are free (all the freedoms granted to them under the GPL) to go support themselves, or get somebody else to, or even to go and develop the database themselves.<\/p>\n<p>So, here&#8217;s to not holding your users hostage!<\/p>\n<p>(this isn&#8217;t an attack on Sybase being a good database or not &#8211; i have never used it, i don&#8217;t think &#8211; and don&#8217;t really have an interest to. It&#8217;s an attack on proprietry software, and especially proprietary software throwing around the term &#8216;open source&#8217; to try and look good. Proprietary software is what it is, and people should know what that is.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(insert disclaimer about this being my own ramblings and nothing to do with my employer) Try and Buy, or Buy and Buy? :: AO So, the Sybase CEO doesn&#8217;t get it. The Sybase &#8216;free&#8217; offering is in no way free. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flamingspork.com\/blog\/2005\/05\/18\/interview-with-sybase-ceo-where-mysql-is-mentioned\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-406","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mysql"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5a6n8-6y","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":582,"url":"https:\/\/www.flamingspork.com\/blog\/2006\/02\/16\/enterprisedb-where-is-the-source\/","url_meta":{"origin":406,"position":0},"title":"EnterpriseDB &#8211; WHERE IS THE SOURCE????","author":"Stewart Smith","date":"2006-02-16","format":false,"excerpt":"EnterpriseDB : Open source based relational database, PostgreSQL based database management software Oh, that's right - it's a proprietary database! \"Based on PostgreSQL\" - well, good for them - they got a bunch of stuff for free[1]. 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